01.06

Wish I had GPS!
I’m a theology geek before I’m a political geek, but I do love both topics. My good friend Justin Fontes has been informally posting a series of questions on Facebook that are designed to examine the intersections of faith and culture. As one would expect, his questions in that digital public-forum result in a variety of passionate responses from diverse viewpoints.
Justin recently posed the question mentioned in the title of this post, “Is ‘Separation of Church and State’ Biblical?”. Here’s the response I came up with:
I’m in agreement with Mathew about the original intent of the separation of church and state as a historic American political doctrine. The nation was founded with a Judeo-Christian ethic by Puritans, Quakers, Catholics, and Jewish individuals (among others) who sought freedom to practice their faith free from governmental interference. It had nothing to do with constraining religion; quite the opposite, it was meant to protect it.
As for separation’s theological correctness from a Biblical perspective, the bottom line is that it is neither Biblical nor un-Biblical; it’s simply not addressed in scripture. Outside of God’s Covenant with the specific nation of Israel in the Old Testament, the Bible doesn’t prescribe a specific system of government. However, if the question is, “Is separation of Church and State biblically-compatible?”, I’d most assuredly answer in the affirmative.
There are a number of scriptural principals to consider. Again, no one government system is prescribed for the Church age by scripture. In the New Testament, neither Christ nor or any of the Apostles rebuke the secular governmental systems of the day. In Mark 12:17, Christ actually ignores the question of whether or not the Roman occupation is unjust, but states that it’s right to pay taxes to Caesar (understanding of course that God’s Kingdom transcends all earthly rulers and nations). In Romans 13, Paul explains that Christians are to be subject to their ruling authorities, to include paying taxes and giving respect when it’s due. Interestingly, these commands are not predicated upon the governmental system in place, or the moral character of the leader(s) of said government; these are constants, whether under a democratic republic, or a communist regime…
However, that’s not all. Most interestingly, Paul tells Timothy in 2 Timothy 2: “1 First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, 2 for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.”
My take on that passage is this: Paul commanded prayer for governmental leaders, so that they would be blessed as civil leaders (and be saved, if not believers) and allow Christians to live “peaceful and quiet lives”. His primary motivation was to build God’s Kingdom by protecting the Church from civil intrusion (particularly from Rome at the time he wrote) as it missionally spread the Gospel. If a nation’s government has a hands-off approach to issues of faith, allowing religious institutions to exist without intrusion, then half of Paul’s motivation for the command to pray for that government is already accomplished within that nation. To me, that means separation of church and state, at least as it was originally defined by the founding fathers, is certainly compatible with the principles of scripture. Of course, we don’t have that luxury, anymore… but I digress.
For those of us who are followers of Jesus, our governmental role as members of the New Covenant is primarily one of prayer. We pray for our government leaders on multiple levels: on the personal level, that God would regenerate their hearts and draw them to salvation in Christ; on the administrative level, that God would give them wisdom and discernment in their administration of the civil law and national defense; and in their relationship with the church, that God would grant the church protection from intrusion, so that the government is “hands off” in matters of faith, allowing us to lead “peaceful and quiet lives.”
At least, that’s my geeky approach to it. I’ve just begun reading an excellent book by Hunter Baker called “The End of Secularism” which promises to address many of these issues (so far, I’m in the early historical summary section). I’d recommend the book to anyone reading this thread. It contains much to chew on.
Am I on the right track, or have I gotten way off base? As always, I’d welcome your thoughts in the comments section below.
Edit (1/14/10): Justin has resumed blogging, and does so At Land’s End.


Ah, Google Reader. My bad. No problem at all. I never even thought about making an app for that. I’d totally ditch my ad-infested iPhone app for that. I’ll have it up within the next hour, so you can point your browser to satchelldrakes.com/reader by 8pm. Did you get my tweets regarding transferring contacts between your Slate and iPhone? Hope it helped.
Engadget.com has some reps at CES 2010 and they are pumping out some awesome live coverage from the event right now.
I think there are some interesting moments in the Bible regarding government, politics, and their relationship to religion:
1) Calling Christ “Lord and Savior” is an affront to the Roman emperor, who is considered “Lord and Savior” by the Roman state religion. Calling Christ this implies “and NOT Caesar.”
2) Deuteronomy contains specific laws regarding the king. Samuel warns Israel that a king will break exactly those laws, which David and Solomon both do. (Interesting, Saul does not. Maybe he never had a chance, but I’m not going to try to condense a quite long paper into a single parenthetical internet comment).
3) The prophets spoke directly against the secular authority of the king in Israel.
4) Babylonian and other ancient Mesopotamian (and Egyptian) creation myths tended to feature violence, humans working to feed the gods and the sun and moon as deities. These were meant to legitimize the status quo political and social structures of the ruler (who was thought to be a god) taking from the masses and oppressing with violence. Genesis 1 effectively demythologizes this idea, instead portraying creation as a non-violent affair, God as provider, and even referring to the sun and moon almost in passing as the “greater and lesser light.” At the time the creation account was likely propagated, the critique would have been unmistakable.
5) I list this last because the literature is notoriously difficult to interpret, but I have heard very convincing arguments that the apocalyptic portions of Daniel and Revelation deal with the prevailing politic situations of their time.
What I’m saying is that I’m not sure it’s entirely fair to discount the Bible as a non-political book. It is probably also unfair, historically, to assume that any body politic is entirely non-religious. The short of it is that the Bible addresses political issues left and right, the critiques are at times complimentary to each other and at other times diametrically opposed. Anyway, I think that’s pretty interesting.
@Satchell: Thanks man. That app link is a big help to me, and it looks sweet too! I did get the tweet; was going to use that info tonight on my friend’s phone, but he had gotten them all transferred by the time I got over there. Thanks for that, and the the CES info too!
@T: Hey, it’s good to hear from you! Your comments are very insightful; I’ve always gotten a kick out of 1 and 2, myself. The Bible absolutely has both direct and indirect political implications. (I hope my post didn’t communicate that I thought it was non-political, as that’s certainly not what I was getting at.) What’s most interesting to me is what happens when one takes an honest look at the whole of scripture to see what principles it does teach in relation to government, and then compare that to the prevailing conservative evangelical approach to political and social interaction. Some of the issues for which evangelical Americans choose to give up the “peace and quiet” that was mentioned are good; some not so much.
In my mind the statement “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s” in Matt 22:21 strikes me as an example of such political involvement and yet an affirmation of obedience. The balance that Len describes is what I see in scripture as ideal. Unfortunately we have a government that routinely and profoundly stands at odds with the Christian living “a quiet and dignified life.” Only then should church and state converge. Our example comes from Christ himself as he confronted the political powers and authorities of His time, both governmental and religious.
Root Directory = Citizen of Heaven
Windows OS = Citizen of the United States
Root > OS